1 00:00:17,070 --> 00:00:20,030 Hi, you are Penelope? Yes. 2 00:00:20,450 --> 00:00:25,430 And Anthony, your brother? My stepbrother. 3 00:00:26,470 --> 00:00:29,970 So can you, I'm Dr. Barber. 4 00:00:31,050 --> 00:00:34,370 I've been practicing family therapy for a few years now. 5 00:00:34,590 --> 00:00:36,590 And did you want to have a seat? 6 00:00:36,830 --> 00:00:37,830 Exactly. 7 00:00:39,870 --> 00:00:41,070 Just a second. 8 00:00:41,350 --> 00:00:42,490 Turn that on. 9 00:00:44,400 --> 00:00:46,840 Oh, I didn't know our sessions would be recorded. 10 00:00:47,460 --> 00:00:51,820 Oh, I mean, it's just, it's sort of like a note -taking thing. It's nice to have 11 00:00:51,820 --> 00:00:55,700 a digital file. Like, I do still take written notes, but I get a lot of paper. 12 00:00:56,140 --> 00:01:01,280 Okay. It's private, you know. It's just me. And I was here anyway. 13 00:01:01,720 --> 00:01:02,720 Okay. 14 00:01:03,540 --> 00:01:06,840 Well, it is lovely to meet both of you. 15 00:01:08,520 --> 00:01:11,040 Melody, why don't you tell me a little bit about yourself? 16 00:01:12,020 --> 00:01:13,020 Well, I'm... 17 00:01:13,160 --> 00:01:15,720 Just about ready to go to college. I'm 18. 18 00:01:16,540 --> 00:01:21,980 I'm thinking of going into art major, either with traditional art like 19 00:01:21,980 --> 00:01:25,200 or theater or something like that. I don't know yet. 20 00:01:25,440 --> 00:01:26,440 Cool. Thank you. 21 00:01:26,660 --> 00:01:27,660 Okay. 22 00:01:28,040 --> 00:01:31,780 So, Anthony, tell me a little bit about yourself. 23 00:01:32,340 --> 00:01:33,580 I'm also 18. 24 00:01:34,720 --> 00:01:41,380 I'm still kind of unsure about college right now. I kind of want to go, but I'm 25 00:01:41,380 --> 00:01:42,540 just... I'm a little nervous. 26 00:01:42,760 --> 00:01:43,760 I don't know. 27 00:01:43,900 --> 00:01:45,100 Yeah. I don't know what to expect. 28 00:01:45,780 --> 00:01:48,580 Well, what do you like to do? Like, what would you say your hobbies are? 29 00:01:49,180 --> 00:01:55,420 I like crafting art and stuff, but, you know, I don't know how I would go about 30 00:01:55,420 --> 00:01:58,120 that in college or, you know, really a career. 31 00:01:58,960 --> 00:02:02,660 Fair enough. You know, it can be a little challenging, but it can also be 32 00:02:02,660 --> 00:02:03,660 rewarding. 33 00:02:04,200 --> 00:02:05,480 But that sounds great. 34 00:02:06,820 --> 00:02:10,820 Sounds really cool. You look like a couple of, like, you know, great kids. 35 00:02:13,730 --> 00:02:19,390 Um, so, which one of you would like to tell me a little bit about 36 00:02:19,390 --> 00:02:22,390 what brings you in here today? 37 00:02:24,670 --> 00:02:26,710 Can I get a volunteer? 38 00:02:28,490 --> 00:02:30,010 Our relationship. 39 00:02:30,890 --> 00:02:31,890 Okay. 40 00:02:33,750 --> 00:02:36,690 Uh, he really gets on my nerve. 41 00:02:38,070 --> 00:02:39,930 Sisters can do that. 42 00:02:41,800 --> 00:02:47,700 Yeah. I don't know. I just feel like any time I go talk to a girl or try to get 43 00:02:47,700 --> 00:02:51,740 a girlfriend or, you know, like, I'm not telling you about the score, like, she 44 00:02:51,740 --> 00:02:54,680 always, like, seems to come in and mess everything up. 45 00:02:55,640 --> 00:02:56,640 Okay. 46 00:02:57,260 --> 00:03:02,880 Could you, like, give me an example of a specific time? Yeah, there was this one 47 00:03:02,880 --> 00:03:03,980 girl I was talking to. 48 00:03:04,720 --> 00:03:07,140 If I'm being honest, I didn't really know her for very long. 49 00:03:08,420 --> 00:03:09,420 But, like... 50 00:03:09,560 --> 00:03:14,640 We were kind of talking back and forth and stuff, and I asked her out on a 51 00:03:14,700 --> 00:03:21,660 and she ended up finding her and messaged her 52 00:03:21,660 --> 00:03:28,260 about some lies about me and her being my sister and all, where she decided to 53 00:03:28,260 --> 00:03:30,360 believe her over me. 54 00:03:30,700 --> 00:03:37,080 And she, like, started blocking me from everything and wouldn't talk to me 55 00:03:37,080 --> 00:03:38,080 anymore. 56 00:03:38,320 --> 00:03:43,460 Okay. Um, did you know the instance that he's talking about? 57 00:03:43,860 --> 00:03:49,300 Yeah, she was a total fucking slut. So I was doing my best to save him from her. 58 00:03:49,440 --> 00:03:51,520 I don't know about that. 59 00:03:52,060 --> 00:03:55,100 She didn't cheat on you anyways, like she did with her boyfriend. 60 00:03:55,660 --> 00:03:59,840 Would you say that you were dishonest about the things that you told him? 61 00:04:00,640 --> 00:04:05,380 Yeah, I was dishonest, but my intentions were to protect my brother. 62 00:04:06,460 --> 00:04:07,460 Okay. 63 00:04:08,520 --> 00:04:12,680 I don't see anything wrong with it. Do you feel like you have a protective role 64 00:04:12,680 --> 00:04:13,680 towards your brother? 65 00:04:13,860 --> 00:04:17,060 Well, yeah, he's my brother, so I gotta be protective. 66 00:04:18,880 --> 00:04:22,280 What do you think would happen if you weren't protective? 67 00:04:22,900 --> 00:04:29,540 He would get a girl pregnant, or he would end up with an STD, because you 68 00:04:29,540 --> 00:04:31,060 have a terrible taste in women. 69 00:04:31,420 --> 00:04:32,420 I do not. 70 00:04:32,520 --> 00:04:33,520 Yes, you do. 71 00:04:34,500 --> 00:04:36,940 But, I'm just doing my part up. 72 00:04:37,310 --> 00:04:42,330 Yeah, this is weird. Because I know all the girls. I know all their drama. 73 00:04:42,570 --> 00:04:44,150 And I'm just trying to save them from it. 74 00:04:44,730 --> 00:04:51,350 All right. Well, in that case, Nellie, why would you say that you're here 75 00:04:52,610 --> 00:04:57,290 Do you feel there's... I don't think there's any problem personally. 76 00:04:57,810 --> 00:04:58,749 Mm -hmm. 77 00:04:58,750 --> 00:05:02,510 Yeah. But you still agreed to come in. Yeah. Yeah. 78 00:05:02,830 --> 00:05:05,810 He wanted to because it's going to better our... 79 00:05:06,680 --> 00:05:11,940 relationship, and I'm like, okay, sure, there's nothing wrong with it, but is 80 00:05:11,940 --> 00:05:14,240 there something that you might want to try to get out of therapy? 81 00:05:14,480 --> 00:05:17,860 Like, there's no changes that you'd like to make? 82 00:05:18,280 --> 00:05:22,040 I don't really have anything that needs to change. 83 00:05:22,620 --> 00:05:26,720 Just call me, you know, maybe back up a little bit, you know, let me let me, 84 00:05:26,780 --> 00:05:29,460 like, talk to your girl about scaring her off so fast. 85 00:05:30,460 --> 00:05:33,040 What about other relationships? Are you able to have, like, 86 00:05:34,280 --> 00:05:35,960 Friendships are... No. 87 00:05:38,380 --> 00:05:40,080 It pushes them away too. 88 00:05:41,500 --> 00:05:42,500 So what? 89 00:05:42,980 --> 00:05:43,980 You're losers. 90 00:05:44,060 --> 00:05:45,480 They're not going to get you anywhere. 91 00:05:46,300 --> 00:05:50,140 You're just going to be smoking weed all day, playing video games, gaining 50 92 00:05:50,140 --> 00:05:52,200 pounds. I don't want that for you. 93 00:05:52,500 --> 00:05:54,220 I'm saving you from that. 94 00:05:55,720 --> 00:05:59,820 So maybe a little bit of respect would be nice for all the effort I put in to 95 00:05:59,820 --> 00:06:03,020 help take care of you and help keep you away from all this shit. 96 00:06:03,440 --> 00:06:06,740 We're good friends. 97 00:06:07,300 --> 00:06:09,280 We have a difference of opinion here. 98 00:06:11,580 --> 00:06:16,960 Anthony, can you tell me a little bit about what you kind of wish that her 99 00:06:16,960 --> 00:06:18,920 was? Like, do you like feeling like she's protective? 100 00:06:20,080 --> 00:06:21,080 No. 101 00:06:22,570 --> 00:06:28,330 It can be a little powerful, you know, like I'm trying to live my life and, you 102 00:06:28,330 --> 00:06:34,470 know, potentially do some more adult things like, you know, some other people 103 00:06:34,470 --> 00:06:35,470 have done. 104 00:06:36,450 --> 00:06:43,250 And I feel like they just keep getting blocked everywhere and every 105 00:06:43,250 --> 00:06:44,830 attempt I try to make to get with someone. 106 00:06:45,470 --> 00:06:48,090 What's the kind of girl you think you should be with? 107 00:06:48,840 --> 00:06:54,420 I personally think he should be with a girl who cares about, you know, nature 108 00:06:54,420 --> 00:06:55,960 and, you know, events. 109 00:06:56,320 --> 00:07:02,560 Just a fun, you know, a girl who's, you know, waiting until the right time. 110 00:07:03,180 --> 00:07:05,700 But he just wants a girl for him. 111 00:07:07,140 --> 00:07:08,140 Okay. 112 00:07:09,140 --> 00:07:10,140 Well. 113 00:07:13,900 --> 00:07:16,320 So this might be kind of a... 114 00:07:17,900 --> 00:07:22,840 An interesting question, but I want you to really think about it before you 115 00:07:22,840 --> 00:07:23,840 answer me. 116 00:07:24,380 --> 00:07:31,340 Do you think that you are jealous of the girls that your 117 00:07:31,340 --> 00:07:32,340 brother's interested in? 118 00:07:34,000 --> 00:07:36,040 No. No, I don't think so. 119 00:07:36,700 --> 00:07:37,740 You don't think so? 120 00:07:37,980 --> 00:07:41,840 No. What do you think jealousy would look like or feel like? 121 00:07:46,600 --> 00:07:47,840 Kind of like anger. 122 00:07:48,080 --> 00:07:49,400 Kind of like anger. 123 00:07:49,760 --> 00:07:55,660 But I don't feel angry about it. Do you think that jealous people can be a 124 00:07:55,660 --> 00:07:57,740 little controlling sometimes? 125 00:07:58,960 --> 00:08:00,360 Sometimes, yeah. 126 00:08:01,000 --> 00:08:03,120 Is that the way that it can kind of manifest? 127 00:08:03,480 --> 00:08:05,660 Maybe being a little bit controlling of situations? 128 00:08:07,000 --> 00:08:11,060 True, but I'm not necessarily being controlling. 129 00:08:13,800 --> 00:08:17,040 Making some decisions for him, but maybe not being controlling. 130 00:08:17,560 --> 00:08:18,560 Yeah. 131 00:08:19,360 --> 00:08:22,280 Well, what would the difference be? 132 00:08:23,180 --> 00:08:28,580 If I was being controlling, I would show up there, tell the girl off, and drag 133 00:08:28,580 --> 00:08:29,700 him home by the ear. 134 00:08:31,280 --> 00:08:32,440 Yeah, I've done that, though. 135 00:08:35,520 --> 00:08:36,520 Okay, 136 00:08:39,200 --> 00:08:42,679 so, Anthony, how does that, what if... 137 00:08:44,330 --> 00:08:49,550 If someone were to say, I think your sister is jealous over you, would that 138 00:08:49,550 --> 00:08:50,730 accurate? 139 00:08:53,670 --> 00:08:58,070 I don't know. I feel like that would be kind of weird. I mean, I don't know. 140 00:08:58,650 --> 00:09:00,950 I guess I never really thought of it that way. 141 00:09:01,870 --> 00:09:05,630 Like, I don't question it in that way. Do you think that your sister would be 142 00:09:05,630 --> 00:09:07,130 jealous of you dating? 143 00:09:07,570 --> 00:09:12,690 Yeah. I mean, like, I guess it's a possibility, but. 144 00:09:13,710 --> 00:09:14,710 I don't know. 145 00:09:15,570 --> 00:09:20,590 You know, this is definitely a very judgment -free zone. 146 00:09:20,870 --> 00:09:23,870 You know, I've been doing this for a little while. 147 00:09:24,950 --> 00:09:27,210 And, of course, with my training and everything. 148 00:09:27,870 --> 00:09:34,690 I work those two a lot of things. And, honestly, sibling jealousy isn't even 149 00:09:34,690 --> 00:09:35,690 that real. 150 00:09:36,310 --> 00:09:37,970 It's not even unusual. 151 00:09:40,170 --> 00:09:42,170 I don't think she's jealous. 152 00:09:43,400 --> 00:09:45,540 Honestly, I think she's just trying to mess up my life. 153 00:09:46,300 --> 00:09:50,840 Like, she just wants to, like, completely ruin me and doesn't want to 154 00:09:50,840 --> 00:09:51,840 grow. 155 00:09:52,260 --> 00:09:53,620 Where would that be coming from? 156 00:09:54,060 --> 00:09:58,540 Just, I mean, every opportunity I get to talk to someone new, she always pushes 157 00:09:58,540 --> 00:10:01,660 them away and stuff. And it's like, I feel like I'm not going anywhere. 158 00:10:02,340 --> 00:10:07,320 Well, how was your relationship before all of this got started? Did you say you 159 00:10:07,320 --> 00:10:08,360 were close or? 160 00:10:09,440 --> 00:10:10,800 Yeah, a little bit, yeah. 161 00:10:11,520 --> 00:10:12,520 A little bit close? 162 00:10:13,840 --> 00:10:15,500 Yeah? Do you agree with that? 163 00:10:15,860 --> 00:10:16,819 I agree. 164 00:10:16,820 --> 00:10:17,820 Mm -hmm. 165 00:10:18,800 --> 00:10:19,800 Okay. 166 00:10:20,280 --> 00:10:22,000 Well, I have an idea. 167 00:10:23,420 --> 00:10:29,700 And it's a little bit unusual, but it's nice if we think of it as being like a 168 00:10:29,700 --> 00:10:32,700 game. Okay? Would you guys be willing to do this with me? 169 00:10:33,320 --> 00:10:35,120 Sure. Yeah? Okay. 170 00:10:35,900 --> 00:10:38,420 So, here's how it's going to go. 171 00:10:39,560 --> 00:10:42,980 Not quite yet, but Anthony, I'm going to have you stand right here. 172 00:10:43,610 --> 00:10:47,290 And just, like, straight attention, not moving. 173 00:10:47,510 --> 00:10:49,970 Okay? That's what you do. You just stand there. 174 00:10:52,670 --> 00:10:56,090 You can close your eyes if you like or keep them open. Whatever you want to do, 175 00:10:56,150 --> 00:10:57,390 just standing straight. 176 00:10:58,310 --> 00:11:04,530 And Penelope, I want you to tell me on a scale between 177 00:11:04,530 --> 00:11:11,490 one and five how anxious or upset you're feeling. 178 00:11:12,270 --> 00:11:13,610 Okay. At the time. Okay? 179 00:11:14,130 --> 00:11:15,130 All right? 180 00:11:15,830 --> 00:11:18,290 Okay, so that's all you have to do. This is easy, right? 181 00:11:18,610 --> 00:11:22,390 And we'll say that one is completely comfortable and five is I want 182 00:11:22,390 --> 00:11:23,390 to stop immediately. 183 00:11:23,950 --> 00:11:25,410 Okay? Okay. 184 00:11:25,830 --> 00:11:29,810 All right. So, Anthony, X marks the spot. 185 00:11:33,450 --> 00:11:36,890 And that will be one to five. Okay? Okay. 186 00:11:37,370 --> 00:11:39,150 Can you give me a number? How are you feeling? 187 00:11:39,450 --> 00:11:41,070 I'm feeling okay. 188 00:11:42,560 --> 00:11:43,560 Okay, cool. 189 00:11:43,660 --> 00:11:44,660 That's good. 190 00:11:45,860 --> 00:11:48,780 Of course, I can ask you how you're feeling. You can let me know later. 191 00:11:49,440 --> 00:11:52,800 Okay. And all you have to do is just stand there. 192 00:12:17,470 --> 00:12:19,410 Now how are you feeling? 193 00:12:19,730 --> 00:12:20,870 Are you still at a one? 194 00:12:21,550 --> 00:12:24,670 Yes. You're still at a one? 195 00:12:25,770 --> 00:12:26,770 That's good. 196 00:13:07,440 --> 00:13:12,160 I'll keep checking in with you every now and then, okay? 197 00:13:23,900 --> 00:13:24,900 That's totally normal. 198 00:13:54,310 --> 00:13:55,310 We're doing good? 199 00:13:56,710 --> 00:13:57,770 We're doing a one? 200 00:13:59,610 --> 00:14:00,610 Yeah? 201 00:14:04,970 --> 00:14:06,310 Right there at a one? 202 00:14:07,430 --> 00:14:08,850 Yep. That's good. 203 00:14:29,450 --> 00:14:30,450 This is enough. 204 00:14:30,650 --> 00:14:35,590 I don't know where you got your license to be a therapist, but we're out of 205 00:14:35,590 --> 00:14:38,950 here. Let's go. We're all done? Are you sure you don't want to stay? You know, I 206 00:14:38,950 --> 00:14:42,390 feel like it would really help you to work through some other issues. I think 207 00:14:42,390 --> 00:14:45,170 should do this. 208 00:14:45,370 --> 00:14:49,610 I don't think it's appropriate for you to be sucking my stepbrother's dick in 209 00:14:49,610 --> 00:14:50,610 front of me. 210 00:14:50,730 --> 00:14:53,750 Why don't you just come over and have a seat, okay? I think that I know what's 211 00:14:53,750 --> 00:14:54,750 going on here. 212 00:14:55,270 --> 00:14:56,770 Come. It's okay. I promise. 213 00:14:58,329 --> 00:14:59,329 Totally did. 214 00:15:02,510 --> 00:15:04,610 So, that will be. 215 00:15:06,670 --> 00:15:13,150 You're not too upset with me, but how did that make you feel watching that? 216 00:15:13,250 --> 00:15:16,510 Because I feel like we went from a one to we're leaving real fast. 217 00:15:18,370 --> 00:15:22,390 There's not like a two, three, or four in between there. We went right to a 218 00:15:24,510 --> 00:15:25,870 Yeah, we did. 219 00:15:27,340 --> 00:15:33,160 I didn't know this was the type of thing we were going to be experiencing today. 220 00:15:34,080 --> 00:15:35,620 But how did it make you feel? 221 00:15:36,440 --> 00:15:40,380 Like, I mean, really, you can just tell me how it made you feel. You can tell 222 00:15:40,380 --> 00:15:41,780 Anthony how it made you feel. 223 00:15:42,160 --> 00:15:43,500 I think he wants to know. 224 00:15:45,740 --> 00:15:49,380 It made me feel a little. 225 00:15:57,600 --> 00:15:59,000 Justice, I guess. 226 00:15:59,860 --> 00:16:01,040 Maybe. Okay. 227 00:16:01,680 --> 00:16:05,780 Let's get down here to like the roots of your emotions, to naming them. 228 00:16:06,860 --> 00:16:13,540 You mentioned jealousy briefly, but I 229 00:16:13,540 --> 00:16:16,320 don't know. 230 00:16:16,720 --> 00:16:17,820 I don't know. 231 00:16:19,900 --> 00:16:23,120 Is there anything you'd like to say to Anthony right now? 232 00:16:24,560 --> 00:16:27,360 I'm sorry she sucked your dick in front of me. 233 00:16:29,820 --> 00:16:33,520 Is there anything you'd like to say back, Anthony? 234 00:16:35,080 --> 00:16:36,660 I enjoyed it. 235 00:16:38,980 --> 00:16:39,980 Obviously, 236 00:16:41,200 --> 00:16:43,820 you would enjoy it if anybody sucked your dick. 237 00:16:44,640 --> 00:16:45,640 Anybody. 238 00:16:46,240 --> 00:16:52,340 Based off of your choice of women, you would be happy if even a fish sucked 239 00:16:52,340 --> 00:16:55,240 dick. Have you had boyfriends before? 240 00:16:55,480 --> 00:16:56,480 No. 241 00:16:59,180 --> 00:17:00,300 Not yet? 242 00:17:00,620 --> 00:17:04,060 No. Never planned on having a boyfriend. 243 00:17:05,160 --> 00:17:06,160 Okay. 244 00:17:07,619 --> 00:17:10,099 What do you think your ideal boyfriend would be like? 245 00:17:11,300 --> 00:17:17,540 Tall, strong, take care of me in any way, open doors for me. 246 00:17:19,660 --> 00:17:22,520 Gentleman. Does your brother do any of those things? 247 00:17:22,940 --> 00:17:26,819 Yeah. He takes me to school. He drove us here. 248 00:17:27,800 --> 00:17:30,420 He opened doors for me earlier. 249 00:17:30,880 --> 00:17:31,719 Mm -hmm. 250 00:17:31,720 --> 00:17:33,760 He makes me breakfast sometimes. 251 00:17:34,640 --> 00:17:36,140 That sounds very nice. 252 00:17:36,360 --> 00:17:38,620 It is very nice, and I appreciate it. 253 00:17:38,860 --> 00:17:39,860 Mm -hmm. 254 00:17:43,420 --> 00:17:49,560 Does that make you feel... Makes me feel happy and appreciate it. 255 00:17:51,530 --> 00:17:53,210 My brother never made me breakfast. 256 00:17:54,690 --> 00:18:00,390 I had fun all morning in the bathroom, so that's the only way to get me out of 257 00:18:00,390 --> 00:18:01,390 there. 258 00:18:05,570 --> 00:18:10,910 Well, I think that possibly, 259 00:18:11,370 --> 00:18:15,110 Penelope, you do have a little bit of a 260 00:18:15,110 --> 00:18:18,430 crush. 261 00:18:21,760 --> 00:18:27,880 your brother, which, again, actually pretty common. 262 00:18:29,760 --> 00:18:31,200 Not unusual at all. 263 00:18:31,560 --> 00:18:38,480 But he can't date anyone else, and he can't 264 00:18:38,480 --> 00:18:40,420 have other friends, and... 265 00:18:40,420 --> 00:18:47,340 Would you like it 266 00:18:47,340 --> 00:18:48,340 if he hung out with you? 267 00:18:50,510 --> 00:18:55,370 Like if he was hanging out with my friends because they're good people who 268 00:18:55,370 --> 00:18:59,630 smoke weed all day in their parents' basement, then yeah. 269 00:19:01,090 --> 00:19:04,230 My boyfriend hangs out with my friends as well. 270 00:19:04,870 --> 00:19:08,250 Not my husband, but you know. 271 00:19:09,490 --> 00:19:11,790 Back then he was hanging out more with my friends. 272 00:19:13,470 --> 00:19:19,530 I feel like you're taking on more of a girlfriend role. 273 00:19:20,110 --> 00:19:21,710 in your relationship with your brother. 274 00:19:24,250 --> 00:19:27,690 You want to have influence over him. 275 00:19:28,790 --> 00:19:32,690 And, you know, maybe select who's going to be around him. 276 00:19:34,270 --> 00:19:38,650 And just kind of, you know, keeping him. 277 00:19:39,290 --> 00:19:43,790 Keeping him for yourself. And there's really no problem with keeping somebody 278 00:19:43,790 --> 00:19:48,470 you're keeping them with fences, you know, within an area. 279 00:19:50,280 --> 00:19:55,640 But to me, it seems more like you're trying to keep Anthony on a leash, which 280 00:19:55,640 --> 00:19:58,960 much tighter, which originates with you. 281 00:19:59,840 --> 00:20:04,500 And generally, when I see that type of behavior between people who married 282 00:20:04,500 --> 00:20:10,120 couples who are in here for a different type of therapy, some 283 00:20:10,120 --> 00:20:16,340 of those groups are in jealousy and romantic feelings and wanting to... 284 00:20:18,860 --> 00:20:24,500 wanting to elicit a feeling of security, even where, you know, what isn't being 285 00:20:24,500 --> 00:20:25,499 given freely. 286 00:20:25,500 --> 00:20:29,240 If you can take that security, it's maybe a little bit different. 287 00:20:33,260 --> 00:20:35,340 But, you know, you're both getting older. 288 00:20:36,320 --> 00:20:40,300 If you're going to go off to college, if your brother is going to be able to do 289 00:20:40,300 --> 00:20:46,160 pretty much whatever he wants, you know, this could be your chance to... 290 00:20:48,020 --> 00:20:49,700 Work through those emotions. 291 00:20:51,360 --> 00:20:52,360 And so. 292 00:20:52,960 --> 00:20:55,160 However you decide to work it out. If maybe. 293 00:20:55,740 --> 00:20:57,380 We want to move over the fences. 294 00:20:58,220 --> 00:20:59,960 For keeping the relationship. 295 00:21:00,440 --> 00:21:01,900 Do away with them all together. 296 00:21:02,780 --> 00:21:03,780 Or. 297 00:21:05,420 --> 00:21:07,760 Maybe. We learn to. 298 00:21:08,960 --> 00:21:09,960 Enjoy that leash. 299 00:21:10,160 --> 00:21:11,160 A little bit more. 300 00:21:14,580 --> 00:21:16,620 Do you understand sort of what I'm saying? 301 00:21:18,200 --> 00:21:20,620 Got like circles of intimacy. 302 00:21:21,440 --> 00:21:24,000 And he says you want a very tight circle of intimacy. 303 00:21:24,460 --> 00:21:27,660 And he has been wanting a larger circle of intimacy. 304 00:21:28,940 --> 00:21:35,600 But I think that all successful relationships are based on, first of 305 00:21:35,620 --> 00:21:40,580 knowing what we're doing in the first place and then compromising and finding 306 00:21:40,580 --> 00:21:45,580 way to work it out. So, Anthony, maybe if you were willing to shrink. 307 00:21:46,909 --> 00:21:50,410 that fear of intimacy with your sister a little bit. 308 00:21:51,050 --> 00:21:55,430 And it can help if you are willing to widen that fear of intimacy a little bit 309 00:21:55,430 --> 00:21:56,430 more. 310 00:21:56,990 --> 00:22:01,150 And, you know, from there on, they can adjust over time wherever we think it 311 00:22:01,150 --> 00:22:07,390 wants to be or, you know, wherever it takes us. But I think that acknowledging 312 00:22:07,390 --> 00:22:12,090 it and exploring our feelings is a really great first step. 313 00:22:13,070 --> 00:22:15,390 So I do think that there is a type of... 314 00:22:15,690 --> 00:22:20,930 therapy, but again, maybe not very conventional, that might work, that I 315 00:22:20,930 --> 00:22:23,110 love for you to just give a chance. 316 00:22:25,130 --> 00:22:31,750 And Alfie, can I get you to, can I get a yes please, or a sure, or sure, 317 00:22:31,750 --> 00:22:33,490 okay, I'll take a sure. 318 00:22:34,010 --> 00:22:40,090 All right, let's have both of you stand up right there facing each other, maybe. 319 00:22:45,040 --> 00:22:46,040 Sorry. 320 00:22:46,580 --> 00:22:48,140 Sorry. Okay. 321 00:22:48,680 --> 00:22:51,560 Good. Maybe look into each other's eyes. 322 00:22:53,400 --> 00:22:56,440 It's probably been a while since you two did this, especially if you weren't 323 00:22:56,440 --> 00:22:57,440 screaming at each other. 324 00:22:58,880 --> 00:23:00,460 He's been screaming at me. 325 00:23:02,960 --> 00:23:08,840 Okay. Let's maybe focus on appreciating each other, not just 326 00:23:08,840 --> 00:23:14,180 indulging in that emotional pain. Maybe indulge in him. 327 00:23:14,680 --> 00:23:15,680 emotional pleasure. 328 00:23:17,640 --> 00:23:20,560 Okay, so we're eye gazing, we're eye gazing. 329 00:23:20,860 --> 00:23:23,960 I know my office is very interesting, but we're eye gazing. 330 00:23:26,480 --> 00:23:28,660 Isn't your sister beautiful, Anthony? 331 00:23:30,720 --> 00:23:32,600 Look at those eyes, oh my goodness. 332 00:23:34,860 --> 00:23:35,860 Lovely. 333 00:23:37,920 --> 00:23:41,120 Penelope is a very handsome young man. 334 00:23:45,260 --> 00:23:49,820 So he hangs out with his friends all day. He looks like he's in pretty good 335 00:23:49,820 --> 00:23:50,820 shape to me. 336 00:23:51,400 --> 00:23:53,660 Well, that's because Mom makes him work out. 337 00:23:53,900 --> 00:23:55,380 Mom makes him work out. 338 00:23:56,460 --> 00:24:00,040 Let's think of something nice that we can say about Anthony. 339 00:24:03,880 --> 00:24:05,300 I know it's in there. 340 00:24:08,760 --> 00:24:13,780 Would you say that you like? 341 00:24:14,330 --> 00:24:15,950 They have any arms. 342 00:24:17,410 --> 00:24:18,730 Yep. Yeah. 343 00:24:20,030 --> 00:24:22,950 And Anthony, she gave you a compliment. 344 00:24:24,850 --> 00:24:26,010 Does that feel good? 345 00:24:26,350 --> 00:24:27,350 Yeah. 346 00:24:27,830 --> 00:24:29,090 It feels nice? 347 00:24:30,290 --> 00:24:32,750 Well, why don't you give your sister a compliment? 348 00:24:34,510 --> 00:24:35,810 She's so beautiful. 349 00:24:36,010 --> 00:24:37,390 She's got that long hair. 350 00:24:38,290 --> 00:24:40,090 Yeah. Amazing breath. 351 00:24:40,410 --> 00:24:41,410 I like her. 352 00:24:43,790 --> 00:24:44,790 Did you say breasts? 353 00:24:45,470 --> 00:24:48,030 I did say breasts. I mean, they're gorgeous. 354 00:24:48,410 --> 00:24:51,810 I know you're just wearing a little t -shirt, but... Yeah. 355 00:24:52,110 --> 00:24:54,590 I'm a little jealous, to be honest. They are pretty nice. 356 00:24:55,230 --> 00:24:56,230 They're lovely. 357 00:24:56,690 --> 00:24:58,070 They're quite beautiful. 358 00:24:59,710 --> 00:25:01,690 Doesn't that feel nice, to be nice? 359 00:25:02,170 --> 00:25:05,530 I feel like when people are feeling nice, it's nice. 360 00:25:07,710 --> 00:25:12,530 How did you two feel about maybe appreciating, like, all of each other? 361 00:25:13,290 --> 00:25:19,130 I keep that good feeling going. For example, Anthony, how do you feel about 362 00:25:19,130 --> 00:25:20,410 taking your shirt off for me? 363 00:25:22,190 --> 00:25:25,930 I can do that. You can do that? Yeah. 364 00:25:28,910 --> 00:25:29,930 There you go. 365 00:25:35,550 --> 00:25:38,710 Uh -oh, I still got some lipstick prints on there. 366 00:25:38,970 --> 00:25:39,970 Oh, my. 367 00:25:44,330 --> 00:25:47,010 Well, you know who doesn't have lipstick prints under her shirt? 368 00:25:51,750 --> 00:25:53,670 Yeah, one of the pennies. 369 00:25:53,910 --> 00:25:54,910 The little one. 370 00:25:55,470 --> 00:25:57,250 Do you want to take your shirt off for me? 371 00:25:58,210 --> 00:26:01,150 I know that you've been a little shy. 372 00:26:11,210 --> 00:26:12,210 You don't have to be shy. 373 00:26:12,330 --> 00:26:14,750 I'm sure that your brother thinks you are very attractive. 374 00:26:16,830 --> 00:26:21,730 Is there anything that Anthony could say that would help you feel more 375 00:26:21,730 --> 00:26:23,230 comfortable putting your hands down? 376 00:26:24,730 --> 00:26:27,130 Just put them down. 377 00:26:29,290 --> 00:26:30,290 Wow. 378 00:26:32,490 --> 00:26:35,910 It's okay to say what you're thinking. I can think of some words that I would 379 00:26:35,910 --> 00:26:38,750 use to describe your sister's body. 380 00:26:41,040 --> 00:26:42,040 It's pretty hot. 381 00:26:42,940 --> 00:26:43,819 Pretty hot? 382 00:26:43,820 --> 00:26:47,320 I was going to say beautiful, but I don't speak boy. 383 00:26:49,500 --> 00:26:50,500 Pretty hot. 384 00:26:50,920 --> 00:26:51,920 That's a gorgeous bra. 385 00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:53,440 Did you pick that out yourself? 386 00:26:53,880 --> 00:26:57,720 Yeah. It's very pretty. It's very attention -getty, don't you think? 387 00:26:58,160 --> 00:26:58,999 Mm -hmm. 388 00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:00,000 Mm -hmm. 389 00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:04,920 Now, would you like to put your hands maybe on your brother's chest and wipe 390 00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:06,300 away some of those little kiss marks? 391 00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:20,520 You want to, like, run your hands up and down him. You really don't like those 392 00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:21,700 kiss prints being on there, do you? 393 00:27:22,100 --> 00:27:23,100 I don't. 394 00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:27,600 You should keep some makeup remover in here. 395 00:27:30,120 --> 00:27:33,780 Or, you know, kiss your patient. Or not kiss your patient. 396 00:27:34,260 --> 00:27:35,320 That doesn't sound right. 397 00:27:37,660 --> 00:27:41,180 You said that you were appreciative of his arms. Do you want to use your hands 398 00:27:41,180 --> 00:27:43,240 to kind of appreciate his body a little bit more? 399 00:27:58,350 --> 00:27:59,590 Maybe a little. 400 00:28:00,890 --> 00:28:04,370 You know what? I bet if you knew what it felt like from the other side, it 401 00:28:04,370 --> 00:28:05,370 wouldn't feel so silly. 402 00:28:15,570 --> 00:28:18,830 And put your hand on her body as well. 403 00:28:23,820 --> 00:28:26,760 If it makes you super uncomfortable, you can say something. 404 00:28:26,980 --> 00:28:27,980 Anthony, same deal. 405 00:28:31,380 --> 00:28:32,380 Good. 406 00:28:38,180 --> 00:28:40,320 Look at how sweet you two are being. 407 00:28:41,360 --> 00:28:43,760 You almost got each other's throats earlier. 408 00:28:45,800 --> 00:28:47,780 You're being so sweet and tender. 409 00:28:51,790 --> 00:28:54,130 How do you both feel about stripping down to your underwear? 410 00:28:57,250 --> 00:28:59,570 I'm okay. 411 00:29:01,330 --> 00:29:03,570 Okay. So Anthony's down. 412 00:29:03,850 --> 00:29:05,610 Penelope is a little concerned. 413 00:29:08,670 --> 00:29:10,190 Are you feeling a little shy? 414 00:29:12,630 --> 00:29:14,230 Yeah. Are you a little? 415 00:29:14,830 --> 00:29:17,830 We're all just people. It's totally normal, you know. 416 00:29:26,220 --> 00:29:28,780 Are you still feeling a little shy, Penelope? 417 00:29:30,440 --> 00:29:31,520 A little bit? 418 00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:37,460 Yeah. Yeah, it really is totally normal. Like, here. 419 00:29:38,860 --> 00:29:41,160 There's nothing to be embarrassed about. 420 00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:46,040 It's actually quite usual. 421 00:29:47,700 --> 00:29:48,700 Okay, 422 00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:51,980 here's what. Anthony, let's have you turn around for just like a second. 423 00:29:52,610 --> 00:29:55,150 Okay, so you turn around just for like a second. 424 00:29:56,470 --> 00:29:57,470 Okay, good. 425 00:29:57,990 --> 00:29:59,090 You're already turned around. 426 00:29:59,490 --> 00:30:02,690 You can come back over here if you're distracted. 427 00:30:03,270 --> 00:30:05,510 All right, let's focus on you for like a second, okay? 428 00:30:06,330 --> 00:30:07,330 All right. 429 00:30:07,670 --> 00:30:13,690 If he's gone, I really do want you to feel more comfortable with yourself, 430 00:30:13,710 --> 00:30:20,110 with communicating with your brother, with your own body, with your own 431 00:30:20,110 --> 00:30:21,110 feelings. 432 00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:27,200 Even if they're not, like, put out into, like, media and stuff. 433 00:30:27,780 --> 00:30:30,140 I still want you to feel very comfortable, okay? 434 00:30:32,460 --> 00:30:33,820 And it really is. 435 00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:35,880 What? 436 00:30:37,680 --> 00:30:42,260 Just a little bit of nudity. 437 00:30:44,660 --> 00:30:45,660 Totally fine. 438 00:30:46,060 --> 00:30:47,940 Just like being in a women's locker room. 439 00:30:50,129 --> 00:30:51,129 Exactly the same, right? 440 00:30:53,190 --> 00:30:54,990 You can do it. I know you can do it. 441 00:30:56,490 --> 00:30:59,350 You've had the internet for years. I'm sure he knows what a naked lady looks 442 00:30:59,350 --> 00:31:00,350 like. 443 00:31:07,630 --> 00:31:08,630 Oh, it matches. 444 00:31:09,070 --> 00:31:10,390 You look so cute. 445 00:31:13,490 --> 00:31:16,350 You don't even have to get all the way in. You can just, like, in your 446 00:31:16,350 --> 00:31:17,350 underwear. 447 00:31:18,830 --> 00:31:20,430 So here, do you want to turn this way? 448 00:31:22,190 --> 00:31:25,590 And here, I want you to do something that might be a little bit difficult for 449 00:31:25,590 --> 00:31:26,970 you, but I want you to do it, okay? 450 00:31:27,270 --> 00:31:29,450 I want you to show me that you can, all right? 451 00:31:30,130 --> 00:31:33,230 I want you to ask your brother to turn this way. 452 00:31:33,870 --> 00:31:34,930 Can you turn around? 453 00:31:37,970 --> 00:31:42,710 Look how beautiful she is. 454 00:31:44,530 --> 00:31:47,510 Can you use three words to describe your sister's body? 455 00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:51,300 Nice word, but I'm sure that would be anyway, right? 456 00:31:51,660 --> 00:31:52,940 Yeah. Of course. 457 00:31:53,980 --> 00:31:55,400 Coming up next, though. 458 00:31:55,940 --> 00:31:56,940 Sexy. 459 00:31:57,200 --> 00:31:58,200 Sexy. 460 00:31:59,080 --> 00:32:00,080 Hot. 461 00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:01,440 Hot. 462 00:32:02,300 --> 00:32:03,300 Fill up shoes. 463 00:32:03,700 --> 00:32:06,060 Fill up shoes. That's nice. I like that one. 464 00:32:08,140 --> 00:32:10,260 And, Penelope, now it's your turn. 465 00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:13,560 What are some words that you would use to describe your brother's body? 466 00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:17,440 Muscular. Mm -hmm. Let's see where you get in that one. 467 00:32:20,780 --> 00:32:22,540 Hands up. Hands up. 468 00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:25,680 So 469 00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:32,980 let's 470 00:32:32,980 --> 00:32:35,740 maybe keep lipstick stains in reserve. 471 00:32:36,780 --> 00:32:37,960 It's still there. 472 00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:39,320 It's still there. 473 00:32:41,380 --> 00:32:45,240 I don't know. I wish that I had some lipstick for you to put on so you could 474 00:32:45,240 --> 00:32:47,180 your own mark on there somewhere. 475 00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:55,280 The two of you have gotten very intimate, very close, but there's still 476 00:32:55,280 --> 00:32:57,760 little something in the way. 477 00:32:59,100 --> 00:33:00,100 Isn't there? 478 00:33:03,960 --> 00:33:06,920 You're going to answer me and I'm going to trust you. I'm not going to try to 479 00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:09,960 get anything out of you, okay? You're just going to answer me and you're going 480 00:33:09,960 --> 00:33:12,200 to know on your own that you're telling the truth. 481 00:33:12,940 --> 00:33:14,020 Yep. Okay. 482 00:33:14,380 --> 00:33:16,260 Is there a part of you? 483 00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:24,200 That wishes that your brother maybe wasn't wearing those actually really 484 00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:26,720 boxers. Maybe that he was naked. 485 00:33:28,260 --> 00:33:29,260 I guess. 486 00:33:29,680 --> 00:33:30,680 You guess? 487 00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:35,780 Yeah. Well, let's work on our communication skills. 488 00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:39,480 What would you say? 489 00:33:40,180 --> 00:33:42,880 I think they look better on the clothes. 490 00:33:44,080 --> 00:33:45,300 That's very enough. 491 00:34:04,650 --> 00:34:05,650 It's beautiful. 492 00:34:06,770 --> 00:34:07,890 It's really pretty. 493 00:34:10,690 --> 00:34:11,690 No. 494 00:34:14,850 --> 00:34:16,110 You are. 495 00:34:16,690 --> 00:34:17,690 Tit for tat. 496 00:34:17,989 --> 00:34:19,409 This for this. Something for something. 497 00:34:20,070 --> 00:34:26,630 So, you know, you show me yours. I'll show you... What? 498 00:34:29,530 --> 00:34:30,530 Mine? 499 00:34:37,159 --> 00:34:39,659 You're just going in. I thought I was going to have to do more. Good. Great. 500 00:34:42,460 --> 00:34:43,460 Congratulations. 501 00:34:45,060 --> 00:34:46,179 What a little breakthrough. 502 00:34:49,120 --> 00:34:51,360 Is that quite even, Anthony, do you think? 503 00:34:52,020 --> 00:34:53,020 Even situation? 504 00:34:54,159 --> 00:34:55,159 No. 505 00:34:56,040 --> 00:35:02,360 No? Is there something, some highlighter pink, neon? 506 00:35:04,640 --> 00:35:06,020 Yeah. Something. 507 00:35:06,260 --> 00:35:07,340 Hot pink panties. 508 00:35:08,720 --> 00:35:12,860 Right. There are some hot pink panties. You're not wearing hot pink panties. No. 509 00:35:13,640 --> 00:35:14,640 No. 510 00:35:15,220 --> 00:35:19,820 So let's again practice our communication skills. What might you 511 00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:23,480 I also think those would look better on the floor. 512 00:35:27,240 --> 00:35:28,240 Have it. 513 00:35:29,060 --> 00:35:30,060 Okay. 514 00:35:33,360 --> 00:35:34,360 Gorgeous. 515 00:35:36,940 --> 00:35:38,960 We were using words to describe things. 516 00:35:40,240 --> 00:35:47,220 I would use certain words to describe Anthony's penis 517 00:35:47,220 --> 00:35:53,140 right now, such as erect, chymethin, elevated, 518 00:35:53,620 --> 00:35:57,360 inflated, engorged, aroused. 519 00:35:59,060 --> 00:36:01,040 What do you think about that, Penelope? 520 00:36:01,340 --> 00:36:02,700 Your brother has a heart? 521 00:36:03,920 --> 00:36:04,920 He does. 522 00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:06,000 He does. 523 00:36:09,420 --> 00:36:10,420 How does that make you feel? 524 00:36:12,080 --> 00:36:14,300 Good. It makes you feel good? 525 00:36:14,560 --> 00:36:15,560 Mm -hmm. 526 00:36:16,840 --> 00:36:20,340 Would you like to help him with that situation? 527 00:36:20,600 --> 00:36:22,900 And Anthony, would you like her to help you with that situation? 528 00:36:24,520 --> 00:36:25,940 Yeah. Yeah. 529 00:36:27,260 --> 00:36:30,720 Well, you need to be very specific. Help can be different things for different 530 00:36:30,720 --> 00:36:31,720 people. 531 00:36:32,340 --> 00:36:36,660 So, for example, Penelope, I would like you to play with my... 532 00:36:43,460 --> 00:36:44,460 There you go. 533 00:36:46,020 --> 00:36:47,400 It's actually not that difficult. 534 00:36:48,160 --> 00:36:50,160 I know penises can be scary. 535 00:36:50,960 --> 00:36:53,660 I got it. You got it? You can do it? 536 00:36:54,260 --> 00:36:55,260 Okay. 537 00:36:55,520 --> 00:36:56,820 Well go ahead and show me. 538 00:36:57,580 --> 00:36:58,580 Show your partner. 539 00:37:17,930 --> 00:37:18,930 Aren't you enjoying that? 540 00:37:19,670 --> 00:37:21,170 Yeah. You're very vocal. 541 00:37:23,590 --> 00:37:27,690 If you're enjoying something, it's okay to say that you're enjoying it, and it's 542 00:37:27,690 --> 00:37:32,830 okay to phone and express all your feelings and connect with each other. 543 00:37:49,230 --> 00:37:51,650 I bet you two are mostly using your hands. 544 00:37:56,710 --> 00:37:59,610 You guys have been so brave today, Anthony. 545 00:38:02,010 --> 00:38:03,170 So adventurous. 546 00:38:06,510 --> 00:38:13,350 I think that's actually 547 00:38:13,350 --> 00:38:15,970 really helped your sister be more open, too. 548 00:38:26,860 --> 00:38:28,860 We're talking about how things feel. 549 00:38:29,640 --> 00:38:31,020 Like that. 550 00:38:31,820 --> 00:38:33,400 That feels good. 551 00:38:35,160 --> 00:38:36,220 More please. 552 00:38:48,080 --> 00:38:52,180 Would you be okay with me putting in headphones? 553 00:39:01,100 --> 00:39:03,700 I'm enjoying all this cooperation and communication. 554 00:39:05,580 --> 00:39:06,580 That's right. 555 00:39:06,640 --> 00:39:09,300 Look up into your brother's eyes while you do that. 556 00:39:10,700 --> 00:39:11,700 That's right. 557 00:39:12,160 --> 00:39:13,880 You're so good at that. 558 00:39:17,220 --> 00:39:18,220 I'm working 559 00:39:18,220 --> 00:39:25,520 on 560 00:39:25,520 --> 00:39:29,740 one issue here, which is honesty. 561 00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:31,800 about what we want. 562 00:39:33,500 --> 00:39:38,200 But there is one more subject I'd like to broach today. 563 00:39:40,720 --> 00:39:47,300 I would like to, if we can, talk about how 564 00:39:47,300 --> 00:39:52,160 jealous somebody needs Melody about her brother. 565 00:39:54,880 --> 00:40:00,690 So, you know, you've told him kind of how you feel. I mean, You are filleting 566 00:40:00,690 --> 00:40:01,690 him. 567 00:40:02,370 --> 00:40:03,890 And he's okay with that. 568 00:40:05,950 --> 00:40:09,470 Maybe let's try a little tiny experiment, okay? 569 00:40:11,270 --> 00:40:14,450 All right. Okay. Let's just see how it feels, okay? 570 00:40:15,750 --> 00:40:17,230 Can you get that back to me? 571 00:40:17,830 --> 00:40:19,650 Okay, good. 572 00:40:22,110 --> 00:40:24,070 Oh! Oh, my gosh. Okay. 573 00:40:25,610 --> 00:40:26,770 That was good. 574 00:40:28,799 --> 00:40:29,799 Free communication. 575 00:40:30,040 --> 00:40:34,320 Maybe, you know, I'm not a threat to you. It's okay. 576 00:40:35,120 --> 00:40:36,400 It's okay. You got a little heated. 577 00:40:36,840 --> 00:40:37,840 Got a little hot. 578 00:40:37,900 --> 00:40:38,900 It's all right. 579 00:40:39,360 --> 00:40:41,620 Okay. I'm going to go back in, okay? 580 00:40:43,040 --> 00:40:45,680 I tell you to put your hands in your pockets, but you don't have any. 581 00:40:46,320 --> 00:40:47,320 Okay. All right? 582 00:40:47,860 --> 00:40:50,420 We're just going to, do you want to maybe do it with me? 583 00:40:51,080 --> 00:40:52,880 Can you do it with me a little and I'll be okay? 584 00:40:57,460 --> 00:40:58,460 There we go. 585 00:40:58,700 --> 00:40:59,700 down. 586 00:42:36,230 --> 00:42:38,590 Is that nice that she's doing for you? 587 00:42:38,830 --> 00:42:39,830 Yeah, 588 00:42:39,950 --> 00:42:40,970 she's so good. 589 00:42:42,930 --> 00:42:45,410 And you tell her she doesn't have to be challenged? 590 00:42:45,790 --> 00:42:51,750 Mm -hmm. You love her very, very, very much. 591 00:42:52,110 --> 00:42:53,290 Of course. 592 00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:02,740 You can work on creating space out of the two. 593 00:43:03,340 --> 00:43:08,340 And she can work on creating naturally bigger space for you. 594 00:43:08,760 --> 00:43:09,760 Yeah. 595 00:43:10,920 --> 00:43:12,840 You're closer together. 596 00:44:21,150 --> 00:44:27,990 I'm talking about nailing our feelings and saying what we want. 597 00:44:52,830 --> 00:44:54,730 Aw, that's beautiful. 598 00:44:56,410 --> 00:44:59,330 Your sister just heard how she felt about you. 599 00:44:59,530 --> 00:45:01,770 How she found that pretty little pussy. 600 00:45:04,870 --> 00:45:07,730 Gorgeous. What color would you say that is? 601 00:45:08,310 --> 00:45:10,490 Very pink. 602 00:45:11,050 --> 00:45:13,070 Look at that. How would you describe that? 603 00:45:13,490 --> 00:45:15,630 A little bit creamy. 604 00:45:16,490 --> 00:45:17,490 Well, 605 00:45:19,430 --> 00:45:20,750 I think it's just lovely. 606 00:45:58,410 --> 00:46:01,870 And everything that's mouthy isn't having as much trouble with the 607 00:46:02,150 --> 00:46:03,150 Her knees are being met. 608 00:46:06,170 --> 00:46:08,450 That's very interesting data, isn't it? 609 00:47:12,490 --> 00:47:18,610 Oh my goodness. 610 00:47:21,410 --> 00:47:22,650 Somebody's so wet. 611 00:47:23,790 --> 00:47:26,550 Look at that. Somebody's happy to be here. 612 00:47:28,870 --> 00:47:32,610 I feel like your attitude has really changed from all of you. 613 00:47:34,410 --> 00:47:37,890 Can you tell me a little bit about how that feels? 614 00:47:41,050 --> 00:47:42,050 Yeah. 615 00:47:42,590 --> 00:47:45,110 Get you more open. 616 00:47:46,850 --> 00:47:48,090 Yeah, more open. 617 00:47:49,070 --> 00:47:50,070 Mm -hmm. 618 00:47:55,010 --> 00:47:57,010 Oh, my God, that is creepy, puppy. 619 00:47:57,310 --> 00:47:58,310 Oh, my goodness. 620 00:48:03,070 --> 00:48:04,910 Look at that. It's creepy. 621 00:48:56,300 --> 00:49:01,280 It's a joke in therapy, but you know that saying that they should just 622 00:49:01,280 --> 00:49:02,280 get it over with? 623 00:49:03,480 --> 00:49:06,100 Yeah. Yeah, have you heard that? No. 624 00:49:08,160 --> 00:49:14,200 It's usually, you know, not meant verbatim, but in this particular case, 625 00:49:14,500 --> 00:49:20,900 it's hard to imagine you feeling more secure 626 00:49:20,900 --> 00:49:24,200 in your relationship with your brother. 627 00:49:44,410 --> 00:49:45,910 That might be nicer. 628 00:49:46,670 --> 00:49:47,670 Look at me. 629 00:49:57,740 --> 00:49:59,580 What do you think that's going to feel like, Anthony? 630 00:50:00,460 --> 00:50:02,560 I think it's going to feel really tight. 631 00:50:02,840 --> 00:50:03,840 Yeah? 632 00:50:04,520 --> 00:50:06,060 Really tight? Pretty nice? 633 00:50:06,260 --> 00:50:07,260 Yeah. 634 00:50:07,700 --> 00:50:12,660 Well, maybe in a couple of minutes you can let me know if you're right. 635 00:50:13,680 --> 00:50:15,560 I suspect that you are. 636 00:50:16,660 --> 00:50:18,420 You ready to receive your brother? 637 00:50:19,080 --> 00:50:20,080 Yeah. 638 00:50:20,600 --> 00:50:22,420 Do you want to ask for it, please? 639 00:50:25,120 --> 00:50:26,420 What's he doing with that? 640 00:50:37,700 --> 00:50:43,580 There we go. 641 00:50:46,120 --> 00:50:47,120 Wonderful. 642 00:50:52,100 --> 00:50:53,100 Make you happy. 643 00:50:53,640 --> 00:50:55,800 Yeah, just make you what we wanted all along. 644 00:50:57,120 --> 00:51:01,720 Yeah. You were giving him what you wanted. Maybe we could really push a 645 00:51:01,720 --> 00:51:05,060 bit of control over our brother's life. Yeah. 646 00:51:06,000 --> 00:51:09,400 Maybe we asked him before we walked into his Instagram account. 647 00:51:09,900 --> 00:51:11,400 Yeah. Okay. 648 00:51:15,180 --> 00:51:18,160 Yeah. I'm not asking you to trade something for nothing. 649 00:51:19,960 --> 00:51:23,260 I'm asking both of you to trade something for something better. 650 00:51:27,880 --> 00:51:29,020 You're better than fighting. 651 00:51:29,520 --> 00:51:32,100 Yeah, you're better than fighting. 652 00:52:00,720 --> 00:52:02,120 Letting him make some decisions. 653 00:52:04,460 --> 00:52:07,460 All right, thinking about his needs, his desires. 654 00:52:14,800 --> 00:52:18,160 Yeah, a lot of controlling, but it still feels really good. 655 00:52:50,480 --> 00:52:51,860 I thought it would be. 656 00:52:56,260 --> 00:52:59,420 Oh, you're so sweet together. 657 00:52:59,720 --> 00:53:02,480 This is exactly the kind of loving, loving relationship. 658 00:53:20,490 --> 00:53:21,490 There you go. 659 00:53:22,970 --> 00:53:23,970 Lovely. 660 00:53:26,090 --> 00:53:27,590 Are you feeling more secure? 661 00:53:28,310 --> 00:53:29,310 Yeah. 662 00:53:29,990 --> 00:53:33,810 Okay. Let's see. Can you try, like, maybe, like, one more little pass? 663 00:53:35,010 --> 00:53:38,150 Okay. All right. Let's have you hop up. 664 00:53:54,410 --> 00:53:56,010 I want you to look into your brother's eyes. 665 00:53:56,650 --> 00:53:58,250 Okay? Anthony? 666 00:53:58,830 --> 00:54:04,870 I want you to take me while you're reassuring Penelope. 667 00:54:05,150 --> 00:54:07,190 Okay. Can you do that for me? Yeah. 668 00:54:07,670 --> 00:54:09,790 Now? This is kind of my best. 669 00:54:10,050 --> 00:54:11,990 Where are you? 670 00:54:13,090 --> 00:54:16,050 With you back there somewhere. 671 00:54:16,490 --> 00:54:17,490 Oh, there you are. 672 00:54:19,030 --> 00:54:22,210 I'm looking into your brother's eyes. I know it's a pretty show back there, 673 00:54:22,230 --> 00:54:23,230 but... 674 00:54:23,420 --> 00:54:24,420 There you go. 675 00:54:30,800 --> 00:54:32,380 Are you okay with this? 676 00:54:53,360 --> 00:54:54,299 You know what? 677 00:54:54,300 --> 00:54:55,380 I want to be a mommy. 678 00:54:56,360 --> 00:54:57,360 Oh, yeah? 679 00:54:57,400 --> 00:54:58,400 Mm -hmm. 680 00:54:59,080 --> 00:55:04,380 Well, I mean, we got to work on the jealousy, you know? 681 00:55:04,800 --> 00:55:06,900 I was just bugging you for a little bit. 682 00:55:07,680 --> 00:55:11,400 Maybe it's going to be good for us to get over that. 683 00:55:12,040 --> 00:55:15,360 Is this the last time you think that you're ever going to mess around with 684 00:55:15,360 --> 00:55:16,360 sister? 685 00:55:16,700 --> 00:55:19,420 Is this it? She has nothing else to look forward to? 686 00:55:19,780 --> 00:55:22,540 No. This has been really fun. 687 00:55:23,180 --> 00:55:24,800 Yeah. Kind of eye -opening, honestly. 688 00:55:25,540 --> 00:55:28,900 Maybe she's going to get some more later so she doesn't have to be jealous now. 689 00:55:29,180 --> 00:55:30,098 Oh, yeah. 690 00:55:30,100 --> 00:55:31,100 Yeah. Yeah. 691 00:55:31,360 --> 00:55:34,100 Because it's not like you and I are going home together and you're going 692 00:55:34,100 --> 00:55:34,859 with your sister. 693 00:55:34,860 --> 00:55:35,499 Mm -hmm. 694 00:55:35,500 --> 00:55:36,500 Yeah. 695 00:57:25,200 --> 00:57:26,200 I'm sorry. 696 00:57:27,180 --> 00:57:29,320 What's on there? Is that another woman on there? 697 00:57:31,120 --> 00:57:33,460 There is another woman on there. 698 00:57:34,320 --> 00:57:38,820 Just like your brother made an effort to make you feel nice and appreciated and 699 00:57:38,820 --> 00:57:39,820 accepted. 700 00:57:40,860 --> 00:57:43,100 It's a long way to get the same thing. 701 00:57:44,680 --> 00:57:45,680 What did I say? 702 00:57:46,480 --> 00:57:49,700 The thing in your mouth, even though you've just been with someone else. 703 00:58:41,610 --> 00:58:45,090 So open about sharing your weather today. 704 00:58:45,350 --> 00:58:48,190 You clearly love it very, very much. 705 00:58:52,270 --> 00:58:53,790 You can practice stuff like this at home. 706 00:58:54,070 --> 00:58:57,010 Whenever you're feeling jealous, you can tell them how you're feeling. 707 00:58:58,150 --> 00:58:59,890 Yeah. You can do it like this. 708 00:59:00,170 --> 00:59:01,170 Yeah. 709 00:59:01,890 --> 00:59:05,570 Whenever you need her to show you that she really does care and she's just not 710 00:59:05,570 --> 00:59:09,850 being controlling, you can say you could ask her for a certain thing, like very 711 00:59:09,850 --> 00:59:10,850 specifically. 712 00:59:11,230 --> 00:59:12,550 Yeah. Yeah. 713 00:59:15,130 --> 00:59:16,130 Good. 714 00:59:18,310 --> 00:59:20,710 Naming our feelings. We're asking for it. 715 00:59:21,160 --> 00:59:22,780 Exactly what we want. 716 00:59:24,220 --> 00:59:26,840 Okay? We can both do that, right? 717 00:59:27,840 --> 00:59:28,840 Like, 718 00:59:30,260 --> 00:59:32,260 I want you to suck my dog. 719 00:59:32,960 --> 00:59:38,320 I want you to lick me. I don't want you to go out with your friends. I want you 720 00:59:38,320 --> 00:59:40,060 to stay home and have sex with me. 721 00:59:44,380 --> 00:59:49,500 Just a little bit more honesty is really going to change your dynamic entirely. 722 01:00:00,960 --> 01:00:02,000 Can you hold on? 723 01:01:08,650 --> 01:01:09,650 Thank you so much. 724 01:01:52,680 --> 01:01:53,680 Thank you. 725 01:02:35,990 --> 01:02:37,750 So much connection. 726 01:02:38,850 --> 01:02:40,490 I love you. 727 01:02:40,690 --> 01:02:42,350 I love you. I love you. 728 01:02:42,770 --> 01:02:44,210 I love you. 729 01:02:44,910 --> 01:02:47,810 I love you. I love you. 730 01:02:48,650 --> 01:02:50,070 I love you. I love you. I love you. 731 01:02:50,990 --> 01:02:51,609 I love you. 732 01:02:51,610 --> 01:02:52,610 I love you. 733 01:02:52,950 --> 01:02:53,408 I love you. 734 01:02:53,410 --> 01:02:54,408 I love you. 735 01:02:54,410 --> 01:02:57,970 I love you. I love you. I love you. I love you. I love you. I love you. I love 736 01:02:57,970 --> 01:02:59,130 you. I love you. I love you. 737 01:02:59,610 --> 01:03:01,030 I love you. 738 01:03:02,210 --> 01:03:03,670 I love you. 739 01:03:59,210 --> 01:04:00,250 I wish it wasn't mine. 740 01:04:00,470 --> 01:04:03,550 I don't think my sisters have asses like that. Oh, no. 741 01:04:40,950 --> 01:04:42,170 Perfection. Oh, yeah. 742 01:04:44,410 --> 01:04:47,730 Oh, you know, Penelope, that just looks like so much fun. 743 01:04:48,050 --> 01:04:50,270 That looks like a lot of fun. 744 01:04:51,310 --> 01:04:53,250 You think that I could get in on that? 745 01:04:54,550 --> 01:04:55,710 Mind if I cut in? 746 01:04:56,130 --> 01:04:57,130 Okay. 747 01:04:57,590 --> 01:05:02,320 Yeah? Thank you. I really appreciate that. I know how much this is for you. 748 01:06:42,440 --> 01:06:43,440 Thank you. 749 01:07:24,810 --> 01:07:26,530 Oh my God. 750 01:07:28,230 --> 01:07:31,030 Oh my God. 751 01:09:08,880 --> 01:09:09,880 Oh my God. 752 01:11:17,390 --> 01:11:18,510 Thank you. 753 01:12:03,790 --> 01:12:04,790 Oh, yeah? 754 01:12:06,910 --> 01:12:08,010 It's beautiful. 755 01:12:34,709 --> 01:12:36,150 Thank you. 756 01:13:43,700 --> 01:13:46,500 Thank you. 757 01:14:48,110 --> 01:14:49,630 Oh, that's right. 758 01:14:50,250 --> 01:14:51,570 Oh, that's okay. 759 01:14:52,910 --> 01:14:54,090 Oh, my God. 760 01:14:54,330 --> 01:14:55,390 Oh, my God. 761 01:14:55,730 --> 01:14:56,750 Oh, my God. 762 01:15:25,610 --> 01:15:26,610 Hey. 763 01:15:27,710 --> 01:15:31,430 Do you feel like you two learned some stuff that you can practice this week? 764 01:15:31,790 --> 01:15:33,270 Communication and honesty. 765 01:15:33,850 --> 01:15:38,030 Yeah. You know, being a little bit more emotionally giving. 766 01:15:38,330 --> 01:15:39,330 Uh -huh. 767 01:15:40,490 --> 01:15:43,810 Well, then it sounds like you two have some homework. 768 01:15:45,170 --> 01:15:47,290 Well, I'm a little bit excited. 769 01:15:48,450 --> 01:15:49,450 I'm a little bit more. 770 01:15:49,630 --> 01:15:54,530 How do you two feel about maybe having like a regular session every week or so? 771 01:15:56,780 --> 01:16:02,240 Just kind of check in and see how things are going and make sure it's in 772 01:16:02,240 --> 01:16:03,780 progress. Okay, that's lovely. 773 01:16:04,260 --> 01:16:07,460 Mom, you can make an appointment with Sasha on your way in. 774 01:16:07,860 --> 01:16:08,779 You got it. 775 01:16:08,780 --> 01:16:09,780 All right. 776 01:16:10,880 --> 01:16:12,240 We should probably get things up, right? 777 01:16:12,480 --> 01:16:13,860 Yeah. Probably. 778 01:16:14,420 --> 01:16:15,420 All right. 779 01:16:16,880 --> 01:16:19,020 There is a restroom right outside. 780 01:16:20,080 --> 01:16:22,980 Right. You got it. Okay. All right. 781 01:16:27,880 --> 01:16:31,760 I'm so impressed by both of you. I don't know if this is the last time, but I 782 01:16:31,760 --> 01:16:36,580 thought anyone, much less a couple of siblings, makes so much credit in just 783 01:16:36,580 --> 01:16:37,580 position. 784 01:16:38,700 --> 01:16:40,740 I'm very proud, and I'm very impressed. 785 01:16:42,520 --> 01:16:46,700 Yes, there's obviously some stuff there that we never really saw. 786 01:16:48,800 --> 01:16:50,000 I'm glad we got it out. 787 01:16:50,740 --> 01:16:52,080 It's good. 788 01:16:52,440 --> 01:16:53,440 It's healthy. 789 01:16:55,280 --> 01:16:56,280 I'm sorry. 790 01:16:58,180 --> 01:16:59,180 Okay. That's okay. 791 01:16:59,540 --> 01:17:01,520 We're going to work on that behavior. 792 01:17:02,040 --> 01:17:03,040 Okay. 793 01:17:05,800 --> 01:17:06,800 Happens all the time. 794 01:17:09,020 --> 01:17:09,460 You 795 01:17:09,460 --> 01:17:16,420 ready to 796 01:17:16,420 --> 01:17:19,300 go? I'm just going to put this in the bathroom. Okay, yeah. 797 01:17:20,320 --> 01:17:23,600 Bye. Bye. It was lovely to meet both of you.